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I want to modify the Part List Exclude in the Property Definition Editor in PADS 9.5

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In the Property Definition Editor there is a property called " Part List Exclude". When I add this as an attribute to a symbol on the schematic, the symbol is excluded from the Part Lister. This feature works great but instead of having "Part list Exclude = True on the schematic I would rather use DNP for Do Not Populate. I tried adding this option as a User feature  but when I add DNP to a symbol the partlister still see's the symbol. Can I edit the netlist.prp with a text editor to get this option to work or is Part list Exclude the only option?

 

Thanks for your help


Re: PADs ascii output manipulation

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The upside is that the two fields I'd like to add external information to are part of the file already - the PartName and the Description field.

 

I don't see where I can access the files that produce the ascii file to be able to add in these two things.  I've done some looking in the forums here and don't see anything that looks relevant to this.

As Pete mentioned above, there are easier pathways.

Search for Attributes.Add in the help, and there is also a ECO pathway that uses *DEL_ATTRIBUTE* and *SET_ATTRIBUTE*.

 

If you really want to work on the ASCII file, life is a little easier if those fields are already there.

You need to find the RefDes, then scan ahead to the AttrName match, and insert the new value, doing this for every part.

 

If the customer does not have PADS, and wants to control this information themselves, then the ECO pathway may be best.

You send them a BOM, and they send back a ECO ASCII file that you apply to tag new numbers. You can repeat the BOM for them to verify.

Re: DXF to copper pour outline

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boris:

 

I need to create a copper pour border around the perimeter of an oddly shaped PCB.

I've created a DXF that contains two loops (PCB outline and an offset line, the width of the border).

How do I tell PADS to pour copper between these two loops.

If you really want external define of outer and inner edges of this polygon (ie not using PCB outline, and not using pour clearances ) then you can do this by a merge of those 2 polylines into one closed polyline, & copper is filled inside that space.

Of course to make 1 polyline, you need to split/join across the copper area, which makes a 'gap', and you move that 'gap' to touching.

The inner PCB area is now mathematically outside that copper area.

Re: Is Mentor ready for Windows 10?

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Windows 10 can now be installed in my system.

Is VX.1.1 ready for Windows 10?

 

Since the first question, 4 months ago, no reaction from Mentor

If I look in the "Xpedition Enterprise System Requirements Datasheet" on the Mentor site, I see this:

No Windows 8, 8.1 or 10 support is mentioned!!

When attending the PCB Forum, we saw the "Adopting X-ENTP VX.1" sheet which shows:

But the big question is now.

Can VX.1.1 installed on a Windows 10 system without any problems?

PADS logic BOM Display issue

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Posted on behalf of hou william

 

 

I  create a new BOM , but component of reference is C1-C10  .

how can set , C1,C2,C3,C4,C5,C6,C7,C8,C9,C10

 

Thanks'

 

Message was edited by: Robert Davies Moved from Document to Discussion

Re: PADS logic BOM Display issue

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From jduquette

 

On the <File><Reports> dialog, Hit the <Setup> button next to the check box for Bill of Materials.  Select the 'Format' tab and then check the box for 'Separate Ref. Designator'.  This won't give you exactly what you show but it will separate the refdes.  I think I've only seen the format you describe from DxD BOMs, not Logic BOMs.

How to add new item ( component attributes) from EXCEL import

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Posted on behalf of hou william

 

 

PADS LOGIC ,,,how to add new item ( component attributes ) from EXCEL import

 

how can i do ... ?

1.  a new schematic ( BOM)  export to TXT or EXCEL , this is ok !!

2. but , if i want to edit and add new component attributes from EXCEL , then import to PADS LOGIC . how can i do . ?

 

thanks'

 

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Re: How to add new item ( component attributes) from EXCEL import

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Posted on behalf of Jim Granville.as we lost all comments in moving this to the discussion forum.

 

 

Depends on how many you need to do, and how often ?

 

* For just a few, you can copy/paste one element at a time, from Excel, directly into SCH (or PCB) Attribute editor.

[ Pair-copy using ^C ^V ^X ^V  can get you two items with one window change ]

 

* For larger blocks, the Library Part Edit allows Excel Multi-line Paste (tab+CrLf delineated blocks )

That means you needs to SaveToLib (or have your lib already in Sync), Block-paste modify the Lib parts needed, and then do UpdateFromLib with Update Attributes not in design = Y

 

* For often, and very large changes, you could look at the PADS ASCII and PADS ECO formats and create your own external script.

Takes a couple of hours to write and test the Script, but then you can manage frequent and global data set sweeps.

 

- In Logic ASCII Files,  the Attributes have a Line Counter in the PART heading  and then N lines of Attributes.

To add new Attr, increase that Count Value, and insert new Attr lines for each part needed.

 

- or the simpler ECO ASCII import may give enough scope. An example ECO file & ECO commands is

 

*PADS-ECO-V10.0-INCHES*

*DELPART*

R3_1  R1/8W

*CHGPART*

D1  LED  LEDAK

*DEL_ATTRIBUTE*    PART    C8

"VOLTAGE RATING"

"Sim.Analog.Model"

"Sim.Analog.Order"

"Sim.Analog.Prefix"

*DEL_ATTRIBUTE*    PART    U5

"NewU5A"

"NewU5B"

*SET_ATTRIBUTE*    PART    U4

"Geometry.Height"    0.10000"

"NewA_U4A"    vNewA_U4A

"NewA_U4B"    vNewA_U4B

 

You can see the commands for  *DEL_ATTRIBUTE* and *SET_ATTRIBUTE*  and those can add sets of attributes to designated RefDes.

 

The PADS Logic inbuilt Script engine, also has an example (in the help under Attributes.Add) of adding new Attributes to a given RefDes, and that in-built script can read an external csv file, for a list of what to add where.


Re: revision (or version) control

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Hi, thank you for your answer. It's right that GIT, SVN (SubVersion) and TFS are similar to each other, although they differ in some points - but all are repositories.

As I understand your statement, you have a local working-copy and transfer the changes to your repository - is that right? Did you experience any trouble?

 

Thanks in advance, Georg

DxDesigner / Symbol Editor - New property

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Hi everyone,

 

I'd like to modify a library symbol as follows, for example a capacitor. Capacitors can have "Value" and "Material" (besides some other information) defined in the data base (DxDataBook). But in the Symbol, only "Value" can be added as property.

 

My problem is now, that I select the database-field "Material" to be visible in the schematics; but as there is no property defined in the symbol, the the "material" property is not shown next to the symbol in the schematics, but any-where. Is there a way to define the position of a property, that is not listed in the Symbol-Editor?

 

Thanks for any help and kind regards,

 

Georg

Re: DxDesigner / Symbol Editor - New property

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You need to add this new property to your list of available properties using the Property Definition Editor - if using a Central Library then from within Library Manager/xDM Library depending on which version of software you're using. If using the netlist flow then from the Tools menu. If you are creating user properties in the netlist flow  I suggest you take a copy of the delivered property file and store it in your WDIR (user or corporate depending on your environment). As you have posted under Expedition then most likely you are using a Central Library.

Once the new property is added to the prp file you can add it to your symbols and populate it from DxDataBook. For more info see the on-line help.

Re: DxDesigner / Symbol Editor - New property

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Thank you very much for your answer - really quick!

Expedition - How do I select and move a bunch of components over on the PCB to make room for a component I forgot to place

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I need to "shoehorn" in a few components in the PCB layout.  I spent a lot of time actual routing the design and would like to save as much as possible.

So I selected the components on the PCB that I had already placed and routed to/from and tried to move them over, but got an Expedition PCB pop-up

error message that popped up saying "A large number of traced need to be shoved, it may be faster to rip them all up before routing.  Do you

want them ripped up?".  I then hit "Yes", but that message keeps on popping up again and again and I can't land the components that I want to move

where I want them to be.

Re: revision (or version) control

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You understand my usage.  I also keep my libraries in their own working copy, and (occasionally) commit them to the repository; typically after a design is complete. 

 

I've had no issues with a team of 1-3 EEs and doing some layout in house and some design and layout outsourced, and it makes it very easy to move a design from one computer to another (as long as everything was committed!).

Re: Expedition - How do I select and move a bunch of components over on the PCB to make room for a component I forgot to place

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First, don't be afraid to just try the move and see what happens. You can always UNDO

 

If you use the command under the EDIT menu called "Circuit Move and Copy" it will definitely work,

but I always have trouble with it placing the group off-grid, and for some reason I still like grids

(old guy alert) There is a way to set the snap point but I can never figure it out

 

The EASY option to do what you want to do is to select the traces that you want to keep in that area,

and then click the "semi-fix" button, between the "Fix " and "Un-fix" buttons on the routing toolbar,

then go into the place mode and move the group. The traces should stay they way you created them.

 

and again, don't be afraid to try both ways and UNDO whatever you don't like...

 

Jack


Re: revision (or version) control

Re: Is Mentor ready for Windows 10?

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We are actively testing VX.1.2 on Windows 10 and assuming we don't find any issues it will be officially supported then. Windows 8.1 was officially supported with VX.1.1.

 

Personally I've only found some really old legacy software that didn't work on my home PC after the upgrade, and even then with enough digging I got it to work, so I would not expect to find issues with more modern software. Having said that, before Mentor officially supports Windows 10 it is a case of caveat emptor.

Re: Expedition - How do I select and move a bunch of components over on the PCB to make room for a component I forgot to place

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Thanks Jack,

 

This community is invaluable.  I took your advice and saved my original design and made a copy of it to "play" around with moving the components.

 

Ken

Symbol Editor Preferences

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What file controls the Symbol Editor preferences features? I would like to set the preferences up so everyone gets same settings when they create a new symbol.

 

Thanks

 

kirby

Re: PADs ascii output manipulation

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Thanks to you both.

I have pursued using a script and my customer now appears to be happy with the results.

Thanks for the feedback.

Wayne.

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